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Post by FSUgradLSUfan on Jan 8, 2024 12:36:50 GMT -5
That's implying that the judges keeping him off the ballot don't believe what they are saying. Yep, judges are political too. This is why Trump keeps going up in the polls as these legal actions are taken against him. Other people's reactions to what the judges in Colorado did does not equate to knowing the mind of the judges and if they actually did believe in the rulings they were making vs not actually believing them, themselves. |
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Post by castles made of sand... on Jan 8, 2024 12:41:34 GMT -5
Yep, judges are political too. This is why Trump keeps going up in the polls as these legal actions are taken against him. Other people's reactions to what the judges in Colorado did does not equate to knowing the mind of the judges and if they actually did believe in the rulings they were making vs not actually believing them, themselves. They were all appointed by Democrat governors. And numerous legal experts have weighed in on their decisions, not to mention common sense. Trump is being assumed guilty of something he was never even charged with, insurrection. And that's probably something that's under Federal jurisdiction. It didn't happen in Colorado. |
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Post by BuckysRevenge on Jan 8, 2024 12:51:47 GMT -5
video evidence.... 1. only @ 3 people are committing any violence. 2. police abandoned their positions encouraging those rioters, rather than trying to stop them and warning protesters they would be walking into an ambush. 3. and there's byrd hiding off to the side, like a coward, waiting to ambush someone.one guy happens to see him and shouts 'he got a gun.' no one hears him. 4. he shoots babbit even those he can clearly see she is unarmed. 5. all police had to do was show they were prepared to use lethal force and command them to halt. Doors are locked and barricaded. Man plainly visible on the other side pointing a gun at the locked, barricaded doors. What did she really think would happen as she tried to breech the locked, barricaded doors guarded by an armed man pointing his weapon at the doors? |
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Post by castles made of sand... on Jan 8, 2024 13:01:08 GMT -5
video evidence.... 1. only @ 3 people are committing any violence. 2. police abandoned their positions encouraging those rioters, rather than trying to stop them and warning protesters they would be walking into an ambush. 3. and there's byrd hiding off to the side, like a coward, waiting to ambush someone.one guy happens to see him and shouts 'he got a gun.' no one hears him. 4. he shoots babbit even those he can clearly see she is unarmed. 5. all police had to do was show they were prepared to use lethal force and command them to halt. Doors are locked and barricaded. Man plainly visible on the other side pointing a gun at the locked, barricaded doors. What did she really think would happen as she tried to breech the locked, barricaded doors guarded by an armed man pointing his weapon at the doors? Oh he's taking cover, inside another room, with his gun pointed outside the doorway, but that's supposed to be plain for everyone to see. lol We'll never know why she went through that window, she was murdered. Maybe she got scared or something. That's why police are trained to evaluate situations, not just shoot on sight anybody who they feel may not be in compliance with the law. And I like how you cherry pick my post, and ignore the policeman that were standing right next to her who decided to simply walk away and go have coffee or something. They allowed this Ambush to happen. |
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Post by FSUgradLSUfan on Jan 8, 2024 13:04:34 GMT -5
Other people's reactions to what the judges in Colorado did does not equate to knowing the mind of the judges and if they actually did believe in the rulings they were making vs not actually believing them, themselves. They were all appointed by Democrat governors. And numerous legal experts have weighed in on their decisions, not to mention common sense. Trump is being assumed guilty of something he was never even charged with, insurrection. And that's probably something that's under Federal jurisdiction. It didn't happen in Colorado. Numerous legal experts have also agreed with them. |
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Post by BuckysRevenge on Jan 8, 2024 13:28:13 GMT -5
Doors are locked and barricaded. Man plainly visible on the other side pointing a gun at the locked, barricaded doors. What did she really think would happen as she tried to breech the locked, barricaded doors guarded by an armed man pointing his weapon at the doors? Oh he's taking cover, inside another room, with his gun pointed outside the doorway, but that's supposed to be plain for everyone to see. lol We'll never know why she went through that window, she was murdered. Maybe she got scared or something. That's why police are trained to evaluate situations, not just shoot on sight anybody who they feel may not be in compliance with the law. And I like how you cherry pick my post, and ignore the policeman that were standing right next to her who decided to simply walk away and go have coffee or something. They allowed this Ambush to happen. The person filming it saw the guy with the gun. Numerous other people saw the guy with the gun and yelled that there was a guy with a gun. But hey, I guess your earlier comments of "innocent until proven guilty" comments don't apply to everyone (certainly not to the, as you state, "thug" who "murdered"), just to Babbit (how many times did you call her "petite?") |
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Post by castles made of sand... on Jan 8, 2024 13:34:06 GMT -5
They were all appointed by Democrat governors. And numerous legal experts have weighed in on their decisions, not to mention common sense. Trump is being assumed guilty of something he was never even charged with, insurrection. And that's probably something that's under Federal jurisdiction. It didn't happen in Colorado. Numerous legal experts have also agreed with them. I've seen very few other than the usual Trump haters that agree with the decision. |
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Post by castles made of sand... on Jan 8, 2024 13:40:59 GMT -5
Oh he's taking cover, inside another room, with his gun pointed outside the doorway, but that's supposed to be plain for everyone to see. lol We'll never know why she went through that window, she was murdered. Maybe she got scared or something. That's why police are trained to evaluate situations, not just shoot on sight anybody who they feel may not be in compliance with the law. And I like how you cherry pick my post, and ignore the policeman that were standing right next to her who decided to simply walk away and go have coffee or something. They allowed this Ambush to happen. The person filming it saw the guy with the gun. Numerous other people saw the guy with the gun and yelled that there was a guy with a gun. But hey, I guess your earlier comments of "innocent until proven guilty" comments don't apply to everyone (certainly not to the, as you state, "thug" who "murdered"), just to Babbit (how many times did you call her "petite?") Still refusing to address why policeman standing right next to Ashley walked away and allowed the Ambush to happen? A few people on that side of the room might have saw him, who were next to the windows, not the people on the other side of the room where Ashley was at, or the people standing in back. and one guy is yelling he's got a gun. Very few heard him over the noise of the rioters. I gave an opinion about him, and I'll stand by it. He's a thug who hated Trump supporters, and acted unprofessionally. |
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Post by FSUgradLSUfan on Jan 8, 2024 13:46:45 GMT -5
Numerous legal experts have also agreed with them. I've seen very few other than the usual Trump haters that agree with the decision. Anyone who agrees with that decision would automatically make them a Trump hater... If republican... then rino/establishment |
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Post by BuckysRevenge on Jan 8, 2024 13:47:54 GMT -5
The person filming it saw the guy with the gun. Numerous other people saw the guy with the gun and yelled that there was a guy with a gun. But hey, I guess your earlier comments of "innocent until proven guilty" comments don't apply to everyone (certainly not to the, as you state, "thug" who "murdered"), just to Babbit (how many times did you call her "petite?") Still refusing to address why policeman standing right next to Ashley walked away and allowed the Ambush to happen? A few people on that side of the room might have saw him, who were next to the windows, not the people on the other side of the room where Ashley was at, or the people standing in back. and one guy is yelling he's got a gun. Very few heard him over the noise of the rioters. I gave an opinion about him, and I'll stand by it. He's a thug who hated Trump supporters, and acted unprofessionally. Lol. You have no clue who could see what or who could hear the warning of gun. You love to embellish what actually happened there, to the point of ridiculousness. Hell, half of what you've been claiming is taken nearly word for word from the lawsuit filing. |
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Post by castles made of sand... on Jan 8, 2024 13:52:18 GMT -5
Still refusing to address why policeman standing right next to Ashley walked away and allowed the Ambush to happen? A few people on that side of the room might have saw him, who were next to the windows, not the people on the other side of the room where Ashley was at, or the people standing in back. and one guy is yelling he's got a gun. Very few heard him over the noise of the rioters. I gave an opinion about him, and I'll stand by it. He's a thug who hated Trump supporters, and acted unprofessionally. Lol. You have no clue who could see what or who could hear the warning of gun. You love to embellish what actually happened there, to the point of ridiculousness. Hell, half of what you've been claiming is taken nearly word for word from the lawsuit filing. All you need is common sense. He's hiding inside the other room. And I do know you can't explain why the two policemen standing next to Ashley allowed this to happen. Or if she was such a threat why they didn't put some handcuffs on her. |
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Post by castles made of sand... on Jan 8, 2024 13:55:24 GMT -5
I've seen very few other than the usual Trump haters that agree with the decision. Anyone who agrees with that decision would automatically make them a Trump hater... If republican... then rino/establishment Plenty of Democrats are showing their reluctance over the decision too. Dems wade cautiously into Trump Colorado case |
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Post by ron on Jan 8, 2024 14:34:02 GMT -5
No one is cheering. That's a ridiculous thing to say. It wasn't a murder. It was a death of a person trying to overthrow a federal election. Do you not understand the gravity of what was at stake for our country? Overthrow a government? lol
And how was she going to accomplish this? Was there any plot uncovered whatsoever that she was involved in? Or are we like China now at Tiananmen Square, and just shoot protesters.
I understand the gravity that's at stake for our country, where we have a government that's acting like a Banana Republic, persecuting it's political rivals, and jailing people for protesting. And that's why Trump is leading Biden in the polls. Prosecuting political rivals. ... you are a piece of work.... your tin foil helmet is too tight |
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Post by FSUgradLSUfan on Jan 8, 2024 14:45:43 GMT -5
Anyone who agrees with that decision would automatically make them a Trump hater... If republican... then rino/establishment Plenty of Democrats are showing their reluctance over the decision too. Dems wade cautiously into Trump Colorado casethat doesn't equate to the judges not believing they are making the correct ruling, which you are alleging. |
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Post by smd12 on Jan 8, 2024 14:51:59 GMT -5
that doesn't equate to the judges not believing they are making the correct ruling, which you are alleging. Do you think they made a just decision based on the law? |
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Post by cwood on Jan 8, 2024 15:04:00 GMT -5
that doesn't equate to the judges not believing they are making the correct ruling, which you are alleging. Do you think they made a just decision based on the law? I do. Trump should absolutely be disqualified for his conduct following the election. He is 100% responsible for everyone who is either dead or in prison due to Jan 6. |
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Post by FSUgradLSUfan on Jan 8, 2024 15:05:47 GMT -5
that doesn't equate to the judges not believing they are making the correct ruling, which you are alleging. Do you think they made a just decision based on the law? of course |
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Post by smd12 on Jan 8, 2024 15:15:16 GMT -5
So he was removed from the ballot without being convicted of what he was removed for. How is that a just decision with the absence of a conviction?
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Post by castles made of sand... on Jan 8, 2024 15:32:27 GMT -5
Do you think they made a just decision based on the law? I do. Trump should absolutely be disqualified for his conduct following the election. He is 100% responsible for everyone who is either dead or in prison due to Jan 6. That's simply your opinion, not really based on any legal due process. Trump really hasn't even been charged with insurrection. |
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Post by cwood on Jan 8, 2024 15:50:28 GMT -5
There is no part of the 14th Amendment that requires a legal conviction for insurrection for disqualification.
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Post by smd12 on Jan 8, 2024 15:58:24 GMT -5
There is no part of the 14th Amendment that requires a legal conviction for insurrection for disqualification. Shouldn't he have to be charged then? |
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Post by cwood on Jan 8, 2024 16:05:41 GMT -5
There is no part of the 14th Amendment that requires a legal conviction for insurrection for disqualification. Shouldn't he have to be charged then? It's not a requirement so no. |
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Post by smd12 on Jan 8, 2024 16:09:06 GMT -5
Shouldn't he have to be charged then? It's not a requirement so no. The 14th amendment directly references the right to due process of law. You're ok with judges making decisions based on their feelings towards an event or person? |
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Post by cwood on Jan 8, 2024 16:20:15 GMT -5
It's not a requirement so no. The 14th amendment directly references the right to due process of law. You're ok with judges making decisions based on their feelings towards an event or person? I'm OK with judges making legal decisions yes. I'm not a constitutional scholar and won't cry when his disqualifications are overturned. Just for me personally (yes it's just like my opinion man, Castles🙂) I think the insurrection bar has been met and he should not be allowed to run again. |
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Post by smd12 on Jan 8, 2024 16:20:58 GMT -5
The 14th amendment directly references the right to due process of law. You're ok with judges making decisions based on their feelings towards an event or person? I'm OK with judges making legal decisions yes. I'm not a constitutional scholar and won't cry when his disqualifications are overturned. Just for me personally (yes it's just like my opinion man, Castles🙂) I think the insurrection bar has been met and he should not be allowed to run again. Fair. So, it wasn't a just decision. |
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