cwood
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Post by cwood on Feb 28, 2024 7:56:35 GMT -5
How is he lying and what would he possibly have to gain by lying in this situation? cwood just fucked-up (massively). He now clings desperately to his shovel. He and the Ron-Bot lack the ability to accept reality. And it's telling just how easy this is to understand. Still, they intensely fight it off. TDS has completely destroyed them. So your position is most or at least a lot of large companies are performing massive illegal accounting fraud? I'm not sure the fuck-up is mine here lol. Actually I'm sure it's not. Accounting fraud is the illegal alteration of a company's financial statements to manipulate a company's apparent health or to hide profits or losses. Overstating revenue, failing to record expenses, and misstating assets and liabilities are all ways to commit accounting fraud.
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Post by Snerb on Feb 28, 2024 8:01:35 GMT -5
By definition, fraud assumes someone lost money and someone gained from that loss. Who lost money? When did you become the legal expert? Silly me. I thought that Judge Engoron would be the legal expert. It’s a mixed up MAGA world where experts are dummies and dummies are experts, and you’re caught up in the rabble I'm not a legal expert...this is every day knowledge Ron. You know what fraud means, you know how it works...or you're dumber that I thought... you're so blinded by this because it's Trump you've lost all objectivity.
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Post by Snerb on Feb 28, 2024 8:05:20 GMT -5
By definition, fraud assumes someone lost money and someone gained from that loss. Who lost money? Did the bank deny a loan to anyone based in part because so much money was tied up in a loan to Trump? Financials have to account for risk when they're approving loans.. They're federally audited on their risk levels. No financial is going to put themselves in that spot.
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Post by Snerb on Feb 28, 2024 8:06:18 GMT -5
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Post by Snerb on Feb 28, 2024 8:51:09 GMT -5
Appropriate punishment?
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Post by Sir Tinley on Feb 28, 2024 8:55:53 GMT -5
So your position is most or at least a lot of large companies are performing massive illegal accounting fraud? I'm not sure the fuck-up is mine here lol. Actually I'm sure it's not. You're only as smart as a shovel. I've tried to be kind about this but you simply can't put down your shovel. The plain but simple fact is you don't have the chops to understand this and are relying on TDS and video games to pull you through. You have no real world knowledge, understanding or experience to engage this topic on an informed level. You just keep digging. To answer (laughably easily swat down) your posit.... What you are introducing in your latest digging is a crime, punishable by trial/jury for both tax law violations and even securities fraud. Yes, some, not all, companies "fudge" the books and they are prosecuted for tax and or securities fraud. Neither were applicable in this case only because it's completely, totally and entirely different. Both contractually and legally. Two parties entered into a contract that both are satisfied by the terms and the actions of the other party. Both seek to do more business with each other. A Political activist decided to criminalize one party for political reasons. You need to decide- put down your shovel or put down your game boy. Clinging to both is humiliating you....
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Post by Sir Tinley on Feb 28, 2024 9:00:23 GMT -5
When did you become the legal expert? Silly me. I thought that Judge Engoron would be the legal expert. It’s a mixed up MAGA world where experts are dummies and dummies are experts, and you’re caught up in the rabble I'm not a legal expert...this is every day knowledge Ron. You know what fraud means, you know how it works...or you're dumber that I thought... you're so blinded by this because it's Trump you've lost all objectivity. It's even dumber than that. Judges get things wrong all the time. It's the fundamental reason we have an appeals process. Even when appeals run to the conclusion, the SCOTUS has nine (9) judges that frequently split on the decision. Yep "experts" taking opposite legal conclusions. At the highest level. Yep, TDS destroyed his mind.
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cityofchamps
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Post by cityofchamps on Feb 28, 2024 10:08:23 GMT -5
So yea, apparently the right's new obsession is Joe Biden eating ice cream and thinking it is a sign of alzheimer's. Wtf?
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Post by Sir Tinley on Feb 28, 2024 10:17:12 GMT -5
So yea, apparently the right's new obsession is Joe Biden eating ice cream and thinking it is a sign of alzheimer's. Wtf?
Well now we know who gets picked off by hackcyn......
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Post by Shia Labeouf on Feb 28, 2024 11:05:33 GMT -5
Cruel and unusual punishment should be a thing again. Maybe they won't be kidnapping and beating someone to death if they knew that if they got caught they'd be thrown into shark infested waters until they were eaten alive.
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cwood
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Post by cwood on Feb 28, 2024 11:28:48 GMT -5
So your position is most or at least a lot of large companies are performing massive illegal accounting fraud? I'm not sure the fuck-up is mine here lol. Actually I'm sure it's not. You're only as smart as a shovel. I've tried to be kind about this but you simply can't put down your shovel. The plain but simple fact is you don't have the chops to understand this and are relying on TDS and video games to pull you through. You have no real world knowledge, understanding or experience to engage this topic on an informed level. You just keep digging. To answer (laughably easily swat down) your posit.... What you are introducing in your latest digging is a crime, punishable by trial/jury for both tax law violations and even securities fraud. Yes, some, not all, companies "fudge" the books and they are prosecuted for tax and or securities fraud. Neither were applicable in this case only because it's completely, totally and entirely different. Both contractually and legally. Two parties entered into a contract that both are satisfied by the terms and the actions of the other party. Both seek to do more business with each other. A Political activist decided to criminalize one party for political reasons. You need to decide- put down your shovel or put down your game boy. Clinging to both is humiliating you.... I love when you state something obvious and assumed as a gotcha. What else does New York law say? That's the important part.
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Post by ron on Feb 28, 2024 11:29:54 GMT -5
When did you become the legal expert? Silly me. I thought that Judge Engoron would be the legal expert. It’s a mixed up MAGA world where experts are dummies and dummies are experts, and you’re caught up in the rabble I'm not a legal expert...this is every day knowledge Ron. You know what fraud means, you know how it works...or you're dumber that I thought... you're so blinded by this because it's Trump you've lost all objectivity. A judge convicted Trump of fraud. Very simple. Are you smarter than the judge?
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Post by cwood on Feb 28, 2024 11:33:05 GMT -5
Lol, "experts are dummies and dummies are experts" is the perfect way to sum up the MAGA crowd.
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Post by eXiT on Feb 28, 2024 11:53:26 GMT -5
Why is the LAW & ORDER party so against upholding the law?
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Post by Sir Tinley on Feb 28, 2024 11:57:43 GMT -5
What else does New York law say? That's the important part. It says the DA can assign this to the judge of his choice who makes a decision without a jury and can impose the penalty of his choosing and the defendant must pay to even appeal.... You know, just like it is laid out in the bill of rights....
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Post by Sir Tinley on Feb 28, 2024 11:59:17 GMT -5
A judge convicted Trump of fraud. What? No jury? No victim? Very simple. Are you smarter than the judge? Judges get overturned quite often. How smart are they?
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Post by Sir Tinley on Feb 28, 2024 12:02:31 GMT -5
Lol, "experts are dummies and dummies are experts" is the perfect way to sum up the MAGA crowd. Now that's how you haul ass...... Why is the LAW & ORDER party so against upholding the law? Because TDS and taking down a political opponent is critical to their future. They may pretend to be Law and Order, but they also pretend to want secure borders. They really want a Putin style gov't and repubs must be taken out to achieve that.
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Post by eXiT on Feb 28, 2024 12:06:56 GMT -5
It makes sense why Christian fundamentalists vote heavily for Trump. Just like their Pastors, he preaches lies, sexually assaults people, and is a complete fraud.
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Post by Sir Tinley on Feb 28, 2024 12:26:48 GMT -5
It makes sense why Christian fundamentalists vote heavily for Trump. Just like their Pastors, he preaches lies, sexually assaults people, and is a complete fraud. If that was close to true, they would vote for Biden....
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Post by Snerb on Feb 28, 2024 13:23:46 GMT -5
I'm not a legal expert...this is every day knowledge Ron. You know what fraud means, you know how it works...or you're dumber that I thought... you're so blinded by this because it's Trump you've lost all objectivity. A judge convicted Trump of fraud. Very simple. Are you smarter than the judge? Back to my original question...who lost in the deal?
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Post by Snerb on Feb 28, 2024 13:24:52 GMT -5
It makes sense why Christian fundamentalists vote heavily for Trump. Just like their Pastors, he preaches lies, sexually assaults people, and is a complete fraud. Says the one who promotes porn in elementary schools...
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Post by Sir Tinley on Feb 28, 2024 13:36:22 GMT -5
A judge convicted Trump of fraud. Very simple. Are you smarter than the judge? Back to my original question...who lost in the deal? You just fired the (totally legal and registered) starter pistol! There he goes!!
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Post by eXiT on Feb 28, 2024 13:41:10 GMT -5
It makes sense why Christian fundamentalists vote heavily for Trump. Just like their Pastors, he preaches lies, sexually assaults people, and is a complete fraud. Says the one who promotes porn in elementary schools... We clearly should not be having our children learn or read the bible... All it teaches is sex, incest and rape! Christians are fucking perverts! Ezekiel 23:20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. Genesis 19:30-38 30 Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. 31 One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children—as is the custom all over the earth. 32 Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father.” 33 That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up. 34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.” 35 So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up. 36 So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father. 37 The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab ; he is the father of the Moabites of today. 38 The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi; he is the father of the Ammonites of today.
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ron
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Post by ron on Feb 28, 2024 14:03:29 GMT -5
A judge convicted Trump of fraud. Very simple. Are you smarter than the judge? Back to my original question...who lost in the deal? Justice and the American people
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Post by Snerb on Feb 28, 2024 14:19:42 GMT -5
Says the one who promotes porn in elementary schools... We clearly should not be having our children learn or read the bible... All it teaches is sex, incest and rape! Christians are fucking perverts! Ezekiel 23:20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. Genesis 19:30-38 30 Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. 31 One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children—as is the custom all over the earth. 32 Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father.” 33 That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up. 34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.” 35 So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up. 36 So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father. 37 The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab ; he is the father of the Moabites of today. 38 The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi; he is the father of the Ammonites of today.
I agree. Separation of church and state. If that's important for parents they should enroll their kids in faith based education.
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